ivgoodluck
09-13 08:07 PM
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pani_6
12-16 11:06 AM
we need to write to Sen Joe Lofgren now more than ever..she will try to push the legal bill..also we need to write to her to compensate for some of the waiting time ...so that it gets counted for the citizenship..at least from when the I-485 was applied..I think we will see some sort of push for this ..my only concern is that we again will get caight with the illegals and our issue will be pushed to the side
Can some IV members in CA meet Sen Joe..?..and see what the Sen plans to do..
time for some action now..
Can some IV members in CA meet Sen Joe..?..and see what the Sen plans to do..
time for some action now..
deepimpact
08-23 09:29 AM
deepimpact, shame on you to think like this. This is just one more of example of how ignorant the immigrant community is about the ground realities of these law changes in the employment-based immigration rules which includes H1B, L1s, EB apps etc.
1. The neufield memo of Employer-employee relationship & giving not 3 years of H1B visas but in some cases depending on the contract 3 months of H1B visas.
2. The fee hikes of H1B & L1 visas.
3. Make EB1, EB2 etc more strict to make it almost impossible to get anymore EB2 apps approved. BTW there is nothing which stops them from issuing another memo to review all EB2/EB3 I-140 approval and revise the approvals & deny them if deemed necessary. What would you say then?
You completely missed the point. Put the events in chronological order and you will realize why IV Core insists on meeting lawmakers. Pretty soon, there will be no avenues even with a lot of legitimate experience for an immigrant unless they end up winning nobel prizes....sorry there are not many nobel prize winners in this world and I have not met one so far.
Anyway, hope others continue to meet the lawmakers leaving your EB2-EB3 divide to ask them for recapture and removal of country limits.
Peace.
I aplogize if I hurt someone. But don't shoot the messenger, I was trying to enumerate the possible impacts of the memo. And looking at current changes to employment based immigration policies be it about H1B,L1 or EB it appears they are trying to clamp down on rather lose interpretation of minimum requirements for these visa categories which has led to overuse and abuse of them.for e.g H1B going to lottery on the very first day in 2008.
But it seems these specifications are about EB1 and EB2 with exceptional ability (not with advance degree category) where the requriements is just a list of 10 items without any emphasis on what is defined as a succesful crietria of meeting those items.
I guess you may have got pissed off with my third point , believe me I am not one here to create EB2-EB3 divide. Because no change in legislation is going to be for a particular EB category, it needs to be for the entire EB. Be it visa recapture, per country limit removal or dependants not being counted.
1. The neufield memo of Employer-employee relationship & giving not 3 years of H1B visas but in some cases depending on the contract 3 months of H1B visas.
2. The fee hikes of H1B & L1 visas.
3. Make EB1, EB2 etc more strict to make it almost impossible to get anymore EB2 apps approved. BTW there is nothing which stops them from issuing another memo to review all EB2/EB3 I-140 approval and revise the approvals & deny them if deemed necessary. What would you say then?
You completely missed the point. Put the events in chronological order and you will realize why IV Core insists on meeting lawmakers. Pretty soon, there will be no avenues even with a lot of legitimate experience for an immigrant unless they end up winning nobel prizes....sorry there are not many nobel prize winners in this world and I have not met one so far.
Anyway, hope others continue to meet the lawmakers leaving your EB2-EB3 divide to ask them for recapture and removal of country limits.
Peace.
I aplogize if I hurt someone. But don't shoot the messenger, I was trying to enumerate the possible impacts of the memo. And looking at current changes to employment based immigration policies be it about H1B,L1 or EB it appears they are trying to clamp down on rather lose interpretation of minimum requirements for these visa categories which has led to overuse and abuse of them.for e.g H1B going to lottery on the very first day in 2008.
But it seems these specifications are about EB1 and EB2 with exceptional ability (not with advance degree category) where the requriements is just a list of 10 items without any emphasis on what is defined as a succesful crietria of meeting those items.
I guess you may have got pissed off with my third point , believe me I am not one here to create EB2-EB3 divide. Because no change in legislation is going to be for a particular EB category, it needs to be for the entire EB. Be it visa recapture, per country limit removal or dependants not being counted.
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xyzgc
02-09 09:49 PM
My stand is based on the premise that a man is financially responsible for his wife and his kids and not to wife's parents! The point I was making is about a completely non working spouse. It is not about a wife that leaves workforce for medical reason temporarily.
Let us not confuse the responsibility towards a man's wife and kids with that of in-laws!
Using the same token, a man shouldn't expect/demand any property/cash from in-laws!
I'm perfectly OK with humanitarian and need based help. What crosses the line, according to me, is that 'taking for granted' attitude!
If the brother in OP's story is taking care of his parents, then this situation wouldn't have occurred. Look at it other way. If the man's parents are in need of money, it is better to ask the man instead of their son-in-law!
A man taking a stand and be done with it has a better chance of saving a marriage than a man caving to the demand and building resentment. Hey, if a man is willing to please his in-laws in all possible ways, then who are we to stop him! Let him enjoy!!
I think, gcisadawg, the problem is the structure of the indian society. This is true with westerners too but as much true.
An Indian/asian guy has to earn because he is perceived to be a bread winner. Unless he is properly settled he is not eligible for marriage.
On the other hand, if a girl is not career-oriented she can still get good husbands depending on her personality and so on.
And such girls invariably forfeit the right to send money to their parents. In such cases, one should not expect girl's parents to give her a share in their property. Its all clean.
You have Indian house wives (many of them) but you have fewer house husbands. Even if your wife works, it is supplementary income and not the main.
This is a complex equation and husbands and wives must understand the social structure we live in and adjust with each other.
Let us not confuse the responsibility towards a man's wife and kids with that of in-laws!
Using the same token, a man shouldn't expect/demand any property/cash from in-laws!
I'm perfectly OK with humanitarian and need based help. What crosses the line, according to me, is that 'taking for granted' attitude!
If the brother in OP's story is taking care of his parents, then this situation wouldn't have occurred. Look at it other way. If the man's parents are in need of money, it is better to ask the man instead of their son-in-law!
A man taking a stand and be done with it has a better chance of saving a marriage than a man caving to the demand and building resentment. Hey, if a man is willing to please his in-laws in all possible ways, then who are we to stop him! Let him enjoy!!
I think, gcisadawg, the problem is the structure of the indian society. This is true with westerners too but as much true.
An Indian/asian guy has to earn because he is perceived to be a bread winner. Unless he is properly settled he is not eligible for marriage.
On the other hand, if a girl is not career-oriented she can still get good husbands depending on her personality and so on.
And such girls invariably forfeit the right to send money to their parents. In such cases, one should not expect girl's parents to give her a share in their property. Its all clean.
You have Indian house wives (many of them) but you have fewer house husbands. Even if your wife works, it is supplementary income and not the main.
This is a complex equation and husbands and wives must understand the social structure we live in and adjust with each other.
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maverick_s39
09-15 04:18 PM
gctest, personally I don't see any issue with eb3 to eb2 porting, look at the porting opportunity from eb3 applicant's point of view, these applicants are waiting since 2001 for GCs but EB2 applicant with PDs 2005 are getting GCs, eb3 to eb2 porting is a way for them to jump ahead of 2006 eb2 filers and get their GCs, I don't see anything wrong with it, sure it causes 2003/04 eb2 filers (very few I guess) to wait a little longer but every law has a loophole and we just have to live with it,
How many eb2 filers are really qualified for eb2 labors? I see lot of consulting firms abusing eb2 labors and lot of people who are playing the game fair are left behind, I feel porting labor is a way to level the playing field, also people who filed eb3 labors in 2001, 2002 are qualified for 2005 eb2 labor anyway, just think these applicants file eb2 labor in 2005, as you said if they are not eligible they will be denied to use the opportunity and its OK if you wait a little longer
How many eb2 filers are really qualified for eb2 labors? I see lot of consulting firms abusing eb2 labors and lot of people who are playing the game fair are left behind, I feel porting labor is a way to level the playing field, also people who filed eb3 labors in 2001, 2002 are qualified for 2005 eb2 labor anyway, just think these applicants file eb2 labor in 2005, as you said if they are not eligible they will be denied to use the opportunity and its OK if you wait a little longer
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msp1976
01-10 03:08 PM
May be yes....applying greencard is required to extend the H1...having said that one has to spend huge money in applying for GC...at the same time one can also stay out of US for an year and come back if required...
I came to US when I was 24 years old...I delayed the filing and not a day goes by that I donot repent that...My friend are GC holders and bought their houses..I am 30 now..
I think that even at your age..a GC is good to have....It opens up many possibilities....Whatever money you save doing a job...I doubt that you can go back and retire..The prices of everything keep going up in India...One still would need to work....
Even if social security benefits get reduced in US, they would still pay something...In time if you have citizenship you can get whatever you can from that and whatever you saved would make a living...In fact if you donot have a concrete plan of returning in 1 year, file for GC immediately....
When this organization is successful, you would at least have a 485 filed and your spouse can work and they would not throw you out summarily...
I came to US when I was 24 years old...I delayed the filing and not a day goes by that I donot repent that...My friend are GC holders and bought their houses..I am 30 now..
I think that even at your age..a GC is good to have....It opens up many possibilities....Whatever money you save doing a job...I doubt that you can go back and retire..The prices of everything keep going up in India...One still would need to work....
Even if social security benefits get reduced in US, they would still pay something...In time if you have citizenship you can get whatever you can from that and whatever you saved would make a living...In fact if you donot have a concrete plan of returning in 1 year, file for GC immediately....
When this organization is successful, you would at least have a 485 filed and your spouse can work and they would not throw you out summarily...
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pappu
09-08 09:07 PM
Dear members,
As we enter the final week of our rally preparation we would like to thank our members that have indicated that they would be coming for the rally. We also want to thank all state chapter and action item leaders for helping us out in this massive effort. This planning, coordination and implementation cannot happen without the help of each and every member. Help has ranged from phone call campaigns, publicity campaigns, media campaigns, lawmaker meetings, banner preparations, Merchandise set up, state chapter activities, Bus initiatives, Transportation and accommodation initiatives, sponsorships, reaching out to law offices and like minded organizations etc to tasks as important as deciding the Dinner menu for the Sept 17 event.
We still have a long way to go in our planning and implementation. IV membership is working hard to make this rally a success. The Sept 17th lobby day work is being implemented at this time and lawmaker office appointments are being sought. Everyone that has indicated their presence for this event will be contacted this week. We are planning a big reception event on September 17, from 6PM to 9PM at the Cannon Building in DC. IV members, lawmakers, staffers, industry leaders and other like minded organizations are expected to attend this event. It will be a great opportunity for IV members to meet these important representatives. There is also going to be a big Press event on Sept 18th that we are planning. There are several initiatives being taken to have a big media push for the rally. The rally is in itself a huge task that requires planning from getting all police permits (which we already have) to transporting rally material, providing registration opportunity for members, getting lawmakers to address the rally to details like stage and sound system.
All this has required IV to invest heavily. We already invest almost all in our lobbying efforts and remaining little in Website maintenance till now and somehow manage to run this organization on shoestring budgets. We need about 30 thousand dollars in the next 8 days to make sure we can meet our needs and also make a big impact via this rally. This rally will most certainly bring our issues to the national center stage and help us get much needed immigration relief.
This post urges everyone to come forward and help us in this short term funding drive. If you have not contributed till now, please consider contributing. If you have got your Receipt notice/FP notice/EAD etc. then do show your admiration for our combined effort via lobbying, San Jose rally and Flower campaign that enabled everyone to file their I485s. If you have recently received your green cards, then please consider contributing as a way of celebrating and endorsing our effort.
We need help from each and every member reading this post. We will continue to post updates. Please visit IV site regularly.
Thanks
IV team
Sept 13, update.
Here is a small update on this drive. After seeing such great support and commitment from everyone, we have decided to invest in some media publicity effort. You will see a major push in this by Immigrationvoice and we all will be happy to see the kind of awareness and impact it will make on the Rally day. We have a modest budget of 11 thousand dollars for this effort added to the overall need of 30 thousand for the rally effort. Lets reach of this number (30+11= 41K) and even exceed the expectations in the next 4 days.
Sept 14 Update
Some fruits of the contributions members have made towards media and publicity work
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=13395
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=13392
We are able to do it, only because members are supporting it. More will follow until the date of the rally that will make us all proud. Thank you for your support. Pls. keep it up.
As we enter the final week of our rally preparation we would like to thank our members that have indicated that they would be coming for the rally. We also want to thank all state chapter and action item leaders for helping us out in this massive effort. This planning, coordination and implementation cannot happen without the help of each and every member. Help has ranged from phone call campaigns, publicity campaigns, media campaigns, lawmaker meetings, banner preparations, Merchandise set up, state chapter activities, Bus initiatives, Transportation and accommodation initiatives, sponsorships, reaching out to law offices and like minded organizations etc to tasks as important as deciding the Dinner menu for the Sept 17 event.
We still have a long way to go in our planning and implementation. IV membership is working hard to make this rally a success. The Sept 17th lobby day work is being implemented at this time and lawmaker office appointments are being sought. Everyone that has indicated their presence for this event will be contacted this week. We are planning a big reception event on September 17, from 6PM to 9PM at the Cannon Building in DC. IV members, lawmakers, staffers, industry leaders and other like minded organizations are expected to attend this event. It will be a great opportunity for IV members to meet these important representatives. There is also going to be a big Press event on Sept 18th that we are planning. There are several initiatives being taken to have a big media push for the rally. The rally is in itself a huge task that requires planning from getting all police permits (which we already have) to transporting rally material, providing registration opportunity for members, getting lawmakers to address the rally to details like stage and sound system.
All this has required IV to invest heavily. We already invest almost all in our lobbying efforts and remaining little in Website maintenance till now and somehow manage to run this organization on shoestring budgets. We need about 30 thousand dollars in the next 8 days to make sure we can meet our needs and also make a big impact via this rally. This rally will most certainly bring our issues to the national center stage and help us get much needed immigration relief.
This post urges everyone to come forward and help us in this short term funding drive. If you have not contributed till now, please consider contributing. If you have got your Receipt notice/FP notice/EAD etc. then do show your admiration for our combined effort via lobbying, San Jose rally and Flower campaign that enabled everyone to file their I485s. If you have recently received your green cards, then please consider contributing as a way of celebrating and endorsing our effort.
We need help from each and every member reading this post. We will continue to post updates. Please visit IV site regularly.
Thanks
IV team
Sept 13, update.
Here is a small update on this drive. After seeing such great support and commitment from everyone, we have decided to invest in some media publicity effort. You will see a major push in this by Immigrationvoice and we all will be happy to see the kind of awareness and impact it will make on the Rally day. We have a modest budget of 11 thousand dollars for this effort added to the overall need of 30 thousand for the rally effort. Lets reach of this number (30+11= 41K) and even exceed the expectations in the next 4 days.
Sept 14 Update
Some fruits of the contributions members have made towards media and publicity work
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=13395
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=13392
We are able to do it, only because members are supporting it. More will follow until the date of the rally that will make us all proud. Thank you for your support. Pls. keep it up.
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skysurf
08-21 02:13 PM
Hello, could you please give some info?
Should my spouse, going to live in CA in H4 status, get US driving licence, or DL issued abroad of US will be enough?
One more question. In how many days after entering US (California) in H1B status, should I apply for US DL? The only defined preiod I found on DMV site, is 10 days. But how can I proof my address of residence in US after only 10 days?
Should my spouse, going to live in CA in H4 status, get US driving licence, or DL issued abroad of US will be enough?
One more question. In how many days after entering US (California) in H1B status, should I apply for US DL? The only defined preiod I found on DMV site, is 10 days. But how can I proof my address of residence in US after only 10 days?
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Suva
04-10 03:01 PM
Hi pappu, I am contributing $5/month from 2007. This is $60 for every year. Am I eligible for donar forum? I am sending the checks from 2007 till now by bill pay from my bank.
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black_logs
03-09 12:05 PM
I think for legals, uptill now, it is just they will remove the cap from EB numbers for Schedule A workers ie. nurses etc.
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glub
07-18 07:39 PM
Even though future VISA bulletins show PD way earlier than your PD, your I-485 may get approved since you are in the system.
So, who ever gets to apply I-485 are in much better shape than people with PDs in 2002 or 2003 but do not file I-485 now.
REMEMBER, USCIS USUALLY DO NOT FOLLOW ORDER AND YOU HAVE TO BE VERY LUCKY OTHER THAN TURNING ALL THE RIGHT PAPER WORK.
This is contrary to every description of the process that I have read so far... I don't believe your I-485 will get approved just because it is in the system, the PD has to be current at the time of processing...
So, who ever gets to apply I-485 are in much better shape than people with PDs in 2002 or 2003 but do not file I-485 now.
REMEMBER, USCIS USUALLY DO NOT FOLLOW ORDER AND YOU HAVE TO BE VERY LUCKY OTHER THAN TURNING ALL THE RIGHT PAPER WORK.
This is contrary to every description of the process that I have read so far... I don't believe your I-485 will get approved just because it is in the system, the PD has to be current at the time of processing...
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sri1309
08-13 07:45 PM
Guys,
We saw the September bulletin..
We knew what to expect..
But we were all a little hopeful to see some miracle happen.
And we were doing this every month.
NOW comes the count down we all were waiting for the last few months. Oct bulletin. In that, most of us are expecting some good news.. But what if it moves 3 months forward.. What if it moves 2 years forward. Then it will stop there for next 1 year, while we check every month.. Then it moves back.. Do we want this..
Its not going to make much difference to most of us here.
THIS IS THE TIME TO ACT NOW. We must all do some campaign may be flowers, may be cards, or I donno.
I have written today to all the six members or reps to help us, but a bunch of mails will not help. JUst imagine if all the people in waiting sent the letters. Imagine 100,000 mails going to each of them, or 100,000 flower bouquets going to all.
Please please, lets act now. These small fixes cannot help us. If they want to put any quota limit, that should be at the main entry level whatever the non-immigrant category. Not at the other point when people start applying for GCs and suffocate here. We dont deserve this.
Please Lets act now., ONce again.. We did it in the past and it helped..
We need to do it again... Together we can do it. Together ONLY we can do it..
EB2 guys and others who got approved.. Please dont forget what you went thru. Please put more efforts and help all in case you can .
Sri.
We saw the September bulletin..
We knew what to expect..
But we were all a little hopeful to see some miracle happen.
And we were doing this every month.
NOW comes the count down we all were waiting for the last few months. Oct bulletin. In that, most of us are expecting some good news.. But what if it moves 3 months forward.. What if it moves 2 years forward. Then it will stop there for next 1 year, while we check every month.. Then it moves back.. Do we want this..
Its not going to make much difference to most of us here.
THIS IS THE TIME TO ACT NOW. We must all do some campaign may be flowers, may be cards, or I donno.
I have written today to all the six members or reps to help us, but a bunch of mails will not help. JUst imagine if all the people in waiting sent the letters. Imagine 100,000 mails going to each of them, or 100,000 flower bouquets going to all.
Please please, lets act now. These small fixes cannot help us. If they want to put any quota limit, that should be at the main entry level whatever the non-immigrant category. Not at the other point when people start applying for GCs and suffocate here. We dont deserve this.
Please Lets act now., ONce again.. We did it in the past and it helped..
We need to do it again... Together we can do it. Together ONLY we can do it..
EB2 guys and others who got approved.. Please dont forget what you went thru. Please put more efforts and help all in case you can .
Sri.
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07-24 12:46 AM
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AllVNeedGcPc
03-14 07:53 PM
...raised an SR, sent an interfiling request, but still no LUD yet.
If you check OP and other posters in this discussion, looks like it took around 2 months for all of them.
Hi,
Does anyone has recently got I-485 approval after porting priority date from earliar EB3 filing.
My I-140 got approved 2 weeks back and based on priority date, I am current. Ny EB3 485 was filed in July 2007.
How long it is taking for I485 to get approved after I-140 approval when the priority date is current.
Thanks
PR
If you check OP and other posters in this discussion, looks like it took around 2 months for all of them.
Hi,
Does anyone has recently got I-485 approval after porting priority date from earliar EB3 filing.
My I-140 got approved 2 weeks back and based on priority date, I am current. Ny EB3 485 was filed in July 2007.
How long it is taking for I485 to get approved after I-140 approval when the priority date is current.
Thanks
PR
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07-20 09:24 AM
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kalparikh
08-02 04:32 PM
I am july 2nd filer!!!!!
I spoke to NSC today and they told me that he told me that you need to wait 45 days. OR your check is cashed, there is no way they can check tes system and find out the status for you.
I am glad it will be done this week end!!!!
KP
I have talked to a representative and he very patiently explained me about the mess.
He clearly and very clearly told me that they have a deadline to send all receipts for June end and July 2nd filers by friday (tomorrow) or worst case monday.
He mentioned that they are working hard to meet this deadline.
Hope this clears the anxiety.
This is true for NSC only.
I spoke to NSC today and they told me that he told me that you need to wait 45 days. OR your check is cashed, there is no way they can check tes system and find out the status for you.
I am glad it will be done this week end!!!!
KP
I have talked to a representative and he very patiently explained me about the mess.
He clearly and very clearly told me that they have a deadline to send all receipts for June end and July 2nd filers by friday (tomorrow) or worst case monday.
He mentioned that they are working hard to meet this deadline.
Hope this clears the anxiety.
This is true for NSC only.
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ANGEL
07-29 08:26 PM
Hello,
I am just showing you my ignorance but what is it about.My wife works in DC right now and very active in fighting for our cause,she is a nurse.She has few correspondence with few senators and congressman but it will be great if there is a bigger force behind it all.please let me know how we can help.I too am tired of waiting in a limbo,the uncertainty is too much and by the day I get so discouraged and sometimes on the verge of giving up.
I am just showing you my ignorance but what is it about.My wife works in DC right now and very active in fighting for our cause,she is a nurse.She has few correspondence with few senators and congressman but it will be great if there is a bigger force behind it all.please let me know how we can help.I too am tired of waiting in a limbo,the uncertainty is too much and by the day I get so discouraged and sometimes on the verge of giving up.
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SkilledWorker4GC
07-16 09:45 AM
What happened with sending out an email to all registered members?
We got to reach 3k by today.
Good Morning people.
A new beginning today. We missed our target of 2000 yesterday. Today we have a new target.
$3000.00 by mindnight EST.
Will we make it or will we miss again?
Common IV'rs, this a chance at redemption. Let us show the anti-immigrants that we are UNITED.
We got to reach 3k by today.
Good Morning people.
A new beginning today. We missed our target of 2000 yesterday. Today we have a new target.
$3000.00 by mindnight EST.
Will we make it or will we miss again?
Common IV'rs, this a chance at redemption. Let us show the anti-immigrants that we are UNITED.
chanduv23
05-14 12:21 PM
There are plans on IVs agenda to see if we can collectively help ourselves on these issues.
I recommend all members to use every channel you get to fix issues like these.
We are entitled for a fair process and we must make sure every application is treated in a fair manner.
Folks - anyone can face these issues.
If you have any case problems, please contact the Ombudsman, contact your law makers. Let everyone be aware of these issues.
I recommend all members to use every channel you get to fix issues like these.
We are entitled for a fair process and we must make sure every application is treated in a fair manner.
Folks - anyone can face these issues.
If you have any case problems, please contact the Ombudsman, contact your law makers. Let everyone be aware of these issues.
Raju
07-06 04:05 PM
AILA has reported a very interesting or confusing DOS LegalNet Office letter which one of the members received towards the fact that the consular posts had already been allocated their numbers for the month of July prior to EB visa numbers becoming unavailable on July 2 and that the posts may continue to use their July allocations of EB numbers, and continue to issue Immigrant Visas for the rest of this month, July, for those applicants who were scheduled for IV interviews in July. Hm.....................................
This was what I mentioned earlier. This was reported by AILA a while ago.
This was what I mentioned earlier. This was reported by AILA a while ago.
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